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This will probably sound hyprocritical but when it comes to dolphin and whale I'm bias...don't get me wrong...I couldn't do this to deer either. I couldn't do this to anything to be honest. _________________ Yours,
NiColeRuSSell
"I'm gonna do what I should've done in the first place. I'll find her, wherever she is, tie her up, torture her... until she likes me again."
-Spike
The above clip is from a film narrated by joaquin pheonix and is called Earthlings. I doubt they will ever broadcast it in it's entiraty here in the u.k. or over in the states, because if they did i reckon 50% of the population would turn vegetarian overnight. This film is not for the faint hearted, however anyone who can sit there and watch this film and not feel sorry for animals and what we humans do to them every minute of every day, deserves nothing less than an injection to put them out of their misery that they are causing. We are no better, and have no right to abuse the natural right of life.
They say Ignorance is Bliss.
Watch the film and gain Awareness.
I agree.
I am seriously thinking about not eating meat anymore...I really believe it's a taught dependancy.
When I think of the people who come all out against fur yet eat meat every day--I have always thought they were hypocrits. _________________ Yours,
NiColeRuSSell
"I'm gonna do what I should've done in the first place. I'll find her, wherever she is, tie her up, torture her... until she likes me again."
-Spike
Are you kidding me? Not eating meat so that animals can live? Don'y get me wrong but God placed animals on this earth to be eaten by humans. It's called the freakin food chain. Stupid democrats "save the whales" what a load of BS
Joined: Oct 09, 2006 Posts: 24 Location: Pasadena, CA
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject:
I personally do not think animals are on this planet solely to be eaten by human beings. Look at us and compare our adaptive traits with other animals and then decide who really belongs on this planet. We are so destructive as a species. The most destructive species to exist on this planet all for our own comfort and leisure.
I've seen that video before and was thoroughly disturbed. Yeah, I eat meat, but I don't think meat-eating needs to involve animal suffering. There are WAY more humane ways to kill an animal. _________________ In the end, we will conserve only what we love; we will
love only what we understand; and we will understand
only what we have been taught.
- Baba Dioum
yeah. I thought about going vegetarian for a little bit. But then after thinking about how I chose to own multiple carnivorous animals, to whom I feed about 80 mice a month. I decided that would be somewhat hypocritical.
what is that supposed to mean??? LOL no but i am American, i don't eat deer. i have cut my meat consumption by more than half. i am seriously thinking about being a vegetarian. Eating meat makes me feel weird sometimes..... like guilty or something, i know i can live without it. giving meat to my lizard is just fine with me though. Around here wher i live the school gives a day off for the first day of buck hunting season stupid rednecks!
Joined: Jul 10, 2006 Posts: 92 Location: North Jerzey
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:13 pm Post subject: brutal
that was completely grotesque . . . and to try to compare americans with deer slaughter is sheer stupidity . . . we dont off deer like this . . . . we do it quick style and majority of the time the deer killed isnt wasted (if anything compare this to the methods Jews use. I am jewish and i think its wrong . . the method of kosher slaughter . . . to cut a cows throat open so it chokes on it own blood . . . i love burgers but thats insane) . . . if we didnt control the deer wed be up to our armpits in them . . . for all the deer killed i sure see way to many of them . . . the difference . . . the dolphins feel . . . the dolphins love . . . . deer . . . giant pests . . . makes good stew . . . . . _________________ 1.0.0 Blue Tegu (Jaeger)
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:16 am Post subject: Re: brutal
Kilioa wrote:
that was completely grotesque . . . and to try to compare americans with deer slaughter is sheer stupidity . . . we dont off deer like this . . . . we do it quick style and majority of the time the deer killed isnt wasted (if anything compare this to the methods Jews use. I am jewish and i think its wrong . . the method of kosher slaughter . . . to cut a cows throat open so it chokes on it own blood . . . i love burgers but thats insane) . . . if we didnt control the deer wed be up to our armpits in them . . . for all the deer killed i sure see way to many of them . . . the difference . . . the dolphins feel . . . the dolphins love . . . . deer . . . giant pests . . . makes good stew . . . . .
I am an Animal Science major student and part of the classes I take deal with meat production. This Jewish method you speak of really isnt that far off of how the majority of slaughter houses kill the animals. For cows, they put a pnuematic cylinder gun (looks like a pistol) to the head of the cow, pull the trigger which knocks them out. THey then put chains on the back legs, hang them up and slit their necks. This increases the quality of the meat. With pigs it is similar, they just use a stun gun instead. Honestly, I dont see that these methods are horrible. The animal is unconscious and cant feel anything.
As for the deer hunting comment someone made, I am a deerhunter and am floored that someone would say such a thing. Talk to any wildlife management person about this subject and they will tell you that hunters are needed to control deer population. Of course this also depends on the location. I am in Indiana and we have quite a number of deer. Also, each county has its own bag limits (the number of animals you can kill per day/season).
I will admit that there are very irresponsible so called hunters out there. But why would you compare every hunter to those type of people. I get just as upset if not more than you do about these type of people. They are the ones giving hunter the bad reputation. _________________ Brad
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:26 am Post subject: Re: brutal
Quote:
I am an Animal Science major student and part of the classes I take deal with meat production. This Jewish method you speak of really isnt that far off of how the majority of slaughter houses kill the animals. For cows, they put a pnuematic cylinder gun (looks like a pistol) to the head of the cow, pull the trigger which knocks them out. THey then put chains on the back legs, hang them up and slit their necks. This increases the quality of the meat. With pigs it is similar, they just use a stun gun instead. Honestly, I dont see that these methods are horrible. The animal is unconscious and cant feel anything.
As for the deer hunting comment someone made, I am a deerhunter and am floored that someone would say such a thing. Talk to any wildlife management person about this subject and they will tell you that hunters are needed to control deer population. Of course this also depends on the location. I am in Indiana and we have quite a number of deer. Also, each county has its own bag limits (the number of animals you can kill per day/season).
I will admit that there are very irresponsible so called hunters out there. But why would you compare every hunter to those type of people. I get just as upset if not more than you do about these type of people. They are the ones giving hunter the bad reputation.
I agree with your post in it's entirety.
To everyone else, I did not watch the video, nor do I have any interest to. If there is a serious warning that the video is repulsive, then I will use that warning and avoid it. I am a meat eater. I do feel meat is required in a diet unless you want to eat supplements to make up for the lack of meat. I will not go into a huge debate over this as I have no interest in accidentally offending anybody.
I eat meat in my daily diet.
I am all for the most humane method to dispatch the 'feeder' animal that I eat.
Beyond those two comments, I like to believe my steak came from a special happy magical place.
Though I did not watch that video, I will point out that I am against anything that causes anyone, or anything, unnecessary pain or trauma.
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