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I don't know who told you that, but drowning is painful. I almost drowned when I was little at the pool because these two boys in my class (it was a field trip) kept pulling me under water and I didn't have enough energy to hold myself up anymore. It hurt. That is one way I DO NOT want to go. _________________ 1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Damien and Miss Priss)
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Joined: Nov 06, 2004 Posts: 972270 Location: Central Maine
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:22 pm Post subject:
Drowning is not a quick death. The mental torment alone is inhumane. There is pain with drowning. I will go out on a limb here and assume you have never drowned.
First, lets ask.. What is drowning?
"It's asphyxiation due to blockage of the trachea with water, causing respiratory arrest"
Well, now that we know what drowning is.. Ever take a drink and just part of that drink goes down the wrong path? The coughing, gagging, the pain? And that is with just a little bit of fluid heading into your trachea!!
Now do this.. right now, don't bother inhale deeply.. just stop breathing while you finish reading this. Don't inhale.. in a moment you will start to feel the burn.. the pain that makes your body breath even if you try to hold your breath longer. You may think you started breathing again because of fear of death, but in fact you wouldn't die. You would pass out, but the pain as you just start to run out of oxygen in your lungs is so unbareable you took a quick breath. Think about how bad that burning would have gotten if you couldn't take a deep breath?
Hopefully everything who thinks drowning is painless takes a moment to do as I stated above. There are more humane ways to dispatch the rats. If you still wish to drown the rats, thats fine.. but don't fool yourself into thinking it's painless.
Note that this is my opinion based on some simple notions and can be simple tested as stated above.
Joined: Mar 07, 2007 Posts: 37 Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:06 am Post subject:
Rick wrote:
Please do not try the 'vented exhaust' part of my statement at home unless you are a trained professional, a bill collector or a telemarketer.
You left out lawyers and pedophiles.
Drowning would be a horrible way to go. For me, it rates right up there with death by fire.
Now what might be the best method is if someone were to design a CO (carbon monoxide) chamber instead of CO2 (carbon dioxide). Lungs and blood both see CO and O2 similarly - apparent in situations like Rick's exhaust suicide analogy. The CO is absorbed by the blood, but unlike O2, it isn't converted - therefore, it stays in the blood cells. Now there is no room for O2. You lose consciousness and die in your sleep, usually without convulsions.
Then again, this wouldn't be as much fun as flash freezing with liquid nitrogen.
Joined: Feb 16, 2005 Posts: 22 Location: Washington state
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject:
Yeah, I'll third that about drowning. I had a "friend" think he was teaching me how to swim when I was a young kid. He grabbed me and pushed me under a few times and it became very painful. He later explained he was just trying to teach me how to swim under water. Thank God my other buddy who's pool we were at returned from inside and came to my rescue. Drowning is not humane!
Waterboarding is torture. If you don't know what waterboarding is, look it up dude.
A lot of discussion going on about the cruelness of freezing and drowning.. I just have to ask. The link that was given out at the beggining (http://www.thereddragonsden.com/images/Rodents/co2tank.jpg ) has a part at the end saying that pinkies won't die from the co2 tank (or just take a long time), and that they have to be frozen. I would consider freezing cruel, but if i have to freeze the pinkies, how long do you think it would take for them to die?
Joined: Apr 28, 2007 Posts: 52 Location: huntington beach CA
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject:
I just throw him in the feeding rubermaid container i have, throw on some slayer and slam they thing in there really good. Usually only takes about one hit and their out. Have had one "wake" up right when my snake was about to hit it though........still dont think he was ALL there.
Funny how i have to get pumped to kill a mouse! ha, i really dont like to do it. Gives me the creeps every time i check to see if they are dead
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