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Joined: Nov 04, 2007 Posts: 786 Location: Canada, Québec, Pointe-Calumet.
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:58 pm Post subject: Tame Caiman acting like a dog???????
Ok this video show a japanese guys with his caiman pet. Very tame.
I know it's in Japanese but you have to look his behavior.
The Caiman is 2meters long and weight 40kg.
Also you can look at the 2:14 the caiman tail. It seems strange, does he feels a kind of pleasure (when he's petted) and move his tail just like a dog?
Ben, dogs are a social mammal which have evolved all sorts of means of communicating visually. Although crocodilians are a pretty social reptile, they don't wag their tail for the same reason a dog does.
I'm getting the impression from your recent posts that 'tame' reptiles hold a real fascination for you. When watching videos like this one, you should keep the health of the animal in mind. Yes, reptiles can be 'tamed' to a certain degree, but if you watch that video it is clear that caiman is destined to live a short life. It is being kept in suboptimal conditions, as evidenced by its splayed teeth, skin lesions, obesity and the way it struggles just to walk. It is kept way too cool, I'm willing to bet, but that's one way to keep an animal super 'tame'. If you've seen a healthy caiman get up and walk around you'd realise just how sad this video is.
Joined: Nov 04, 2007 Posts: 786 Location: Canada, Québec, Pointe-Calumet.
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject:
lol crocdoc Don't worry I know that this caiman has a very poor health, he is living in a house, he is overweight and he looks not active.
He needs a very large enclosure with a pond and much more.
I saw many video of all type of reptiles, I definetely know that this Caiman will not live for long. But the point here in this video is the tail mouvement. It fascinated me so much
Yes, reptile ethology is something that fascinate me a lot. Their behavior and interaction is something that get my attention. I know that a lot of people think that they have no emotion, no soul and blablabla, that they are totally inferior to human.
I always put in my mind that reptile have no emotion (critical spirit) and watch the videos like "tegu attention" and other kind of videos like this. Every mouvement that could have a relation with reptile emotional capability always make me think and ask myself: If he do not have emotion, why is he doing this? and etc...
I go to many forum (most of them french forum) , and ask this question, Do reptiles have emotions? Most of them always told me, no people like you are dumb, reptile do not have emotion, they are made to be looked and that's it, they will not see your attention...
However,You are totally right about the caiman health, I can't disagree with you. If I look at your name, I think that you are a Crocodilian keeper right? _________________ Ben3233
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I'm not a crocodilian keeper (although I have kept them in the past), but am a biologist by training and my doctorate was on crocodiles. Therefore crocodile doctor became 'crocdoc', a nickname my siblings gave me.
When you watch videos showing reptile behaviour it is sometimes easy to become anthropomorphic - giving them human characteristics. However, the real motives behind the behaviours are usually very different from what they appear to be. You may think that the tegus in that video are seeking the keeper's attention, but it probably has more to do with what they associate the keeper than a desire to be near him just for the sake of being near him.
That tail wagging in the video is not the same as the tail wagging of a dog. My caiman do that as well, it's a sign of annoyance, like the tail wagging of a cat.
That tail wagging in the video is not the same as the tail wagging of a dog. My caiman do that as well, it's a sign of annoyance, like the tail wagging of a cat.
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Don't worry I know that this caiman has a very poor health, he is living in a house, he is overweight and he looks not active.
He needs a very large enclosure with a pond and much more. 
Every mouvement that 
If I look at your name, I think that you are a Crocodilian keeper right?
