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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and thanks littleNicki . like I said it just caught my eye.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thx angelrose! icon_biggrin.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Intelligence has nothing to do with ability to survive. Nor has it anything to do with making love rather than reproducing, looking after babies or anything like that.

In terms of survivability, nothing beats bacteria - single celled organisms were the first creatures on the planet, they're still here today and they'll still be here long after we're gone. Guess what? No brains. Even among the vertebrates, dinosaurs ruled the earth for 180 million years. I'm willing to bet that primates (like us) are going to last that long. Even some individual species of dinosaurs are thought to have been around for up to 50 million years. Homo sapiens has been here for 100 thousand years (a small fraction of the dinosaur time) and there's no way we'll be here for another 10,000 years at the rate we are going.

Looking after babies? The Australian giant rhinoceros cockroach looks after its babies, but monitors don't. No one is claiming that roaches are smarter than monitors as far as I know. Even some birds, such as cuckoos and other brood parasites, don't look after their babies, and they're definitely much smarter than a roach.

The only real indicators of comparative intelligence are things like ability to learn new things, problem solving etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:41 pm    Post subject: croc doc Reply with quote

very interesting facts and biology. I would be interested in more facts and biology.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Pointed out my error Reply with quote

icon_biggrin.gif A friend pointed out my error. My mis use of Tegus are smarter. It should be they are more SOCIAL Thanks for knocking some sense into this thick HEAD icon_lol.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So crocdoc, which animal you think is the most intelligent? icon_question.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

humans
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is a link someone gave and I am passing it along on here ..............as food for thought.


http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Intelligence_In_Animals
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought it would be interesting here to get some opinions.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crocdoc, why do you say humans
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:24 pm    Post subject: angelrose Reply with quote

icon_biggrin.gif interesting very interesting thank you for sharing
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

angelrose wrote:
crocdoc, why do you say humans


Despite our ignorance and inherent primate greed impelling us to destroy the world, we are the most intelligent animal on earth. There's no questioning our intelligence as a species, just our foresight.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I totally agree with that. if we are so intelligent why are we killing ourselves ? I don't understand the follow thru.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're intelligent, but deep down inside we're still just another animal with a thin veneer of 'civilisation'. Our base primate instincts are to grab what we want or need now - it's not inherent in our nature to worry about the future. Consequently, there's a long history of mankind moving into a new area, causing mass extinction, destroying the environment and then either moving on or dying out. Unfortunately it's now happening at a global level, not just on some remote island, so moving on isn't an option.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well. ok., but I think we are largely responsible for our demise now due to greed.
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