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Joined: Jan 05, 2008 Posts: 815 Location: pennsylvania
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:48 am Post subject: TEGU SALE GONE BAD
if someone said / typed they were selling 1.1 sexed b/w args and then you bought them for your daughter (teaching her about reptiles) thinking later down the line you would like to breed them. shortly there after receiving them, you had your doubts about one. a month goes by and you can clearly see that one is actually a cross.
what would you do ? think ? feel ? _________________ 0.1.0 b/w Colombian tegu
1.2.0 b/w Argentine tegus
1.0.0 Savanah monitor
1.0.0 Brazillian Rainbow boa
1.1.0 Ball pythons
1.0.0 Burmese python
Joined: Dec 22, 2007 Posts: 126 Location: Southern Missouri
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:20 pm Post subject:
Depends on the cross I guess. If it was like a red/blue, red/b+w, or b+w/blue then I personally would think it was a bonus. But I like the crosses. Has anyone ever crossed an arg/columbian? _________________ 1.0 African Rock Python
0.1 Savu Python
1.2 Cornsnakes
0.0.1 Diadem Ratsnake
0.0.1 California Kingsnake
0.0.1 Argentine b/w tegu
0.0.1 Bearded Dragon
2.1 leopard Geckos
0.1 wife
1.1 Children
What kind of proof do you have? Many animals that are labled "Hybrids" actually aren't, unless you have documentation/reasearch to back that up ( not just opinions or hearsay ).
Joined: Dec 18, 2007 Posts: 736 Location: Eddington, Maine
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:37 pm Post subject:
dave in theory i could.. i have an arg and colombian. male and female in the same cage. haha itd be amazin _________________ 0.1.0 Colombian Tegu
1.0.0 Arg. Tegu
2.4.0 Leopard Geckos
1.1.0 Golden Geckos
0.1.0 Bearded Dragon
0.1.0 Royal Python
0.1.0 Spotted Python
1.0.0 Crested Gecko
1.2.0 Tokay Geckos
Joined: Oct 16, 2007 Posts: 1686 Location: San Antonio,TX
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject:
I'm with Dave.I think it would be a great bonus.But like EricIvins sad do you have proof that it is a cross.Some times I think my Leonidas has some thing else in him besides him being a b/w arg.Tegu.He has some baby yellow,orange,brown,black and lavender in his skin ( the top part not the stomach ).I never seen colors like that before.With b/w I always saw them either b/w or with some brown in it.I would say as long as they are two different sexes I would be happy with them .Do you have a close up picture ?
Joined: Jan 05, 2008 Posts: 815 Location: pennsylvania
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject:
I can understand what you guys are saying about some crosses being a bonus. the dollar value does not concern me. I like pure bloods.
I don't have a close up pic at this time.
some time after the transaction, a phone call was made and this person said the female "had some red in her". _________________ 0.1.0 b/w Colombian tegu
1.2.0 b/w Argentine tegus
1.0.0 Savanah monitor
1.0.0 Brazillian Rainbow boa
1.1.0 Ball pythons
1.0.0 Burmese python
"red" does not necessarily mean T.rufescens. It could just be colour. Now I think people are begining to see what I mean when I say uncontrolled hybridization is an abomination. When people don't know enough about the species in the first place, they start jumping to conclusions that could be very erroneous. If this person who said it has "some red in her" is meaning T.rufescens, you would need to know that indeed there was a T.rufescens in your tegu's ancestry and not just someone's assumption that there was, or that a friend of a friend of a friend told them so. Hybridization is a slippery slope, and if it isn't documented, then you just don't really know.
Joined: Oct 16, 2007 Posts: 1686 Location: San Antonio,TX
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 3:08 am Post subject:
angelrose.I wasn't thinking about the money being a bonus part I was thinking about the color.I don't care if mine is a mix or pure bred as long as he is healthy.Him being so beautiful is a bonus for me.
Joined: Jan 05, 2008 Posts: 815 Location: pennsylvania
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:14 am Post subject:
txrepgirl, I am both relieved and happy they showed up healthy that is why I relinquished the money.
as long as there is doubt, I do not want to breed them (my choice).at least not without seeking confirmation.
that was one of the purposes of buying 1.1 sexed b/w args. _________________ 0.1.0 b/w Colombian tegu
1.2.0 b/w Argentine tegus
1.0.0 Savanah monitor
1.0.0 Brazillian Rainbow boa
1.1.0 Ball pythons
1.0.0 Burmese python
Joined: Oct 16, 2007 Posts: 1686 Location: San Antonio,TX
Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 3:06 am Post subject:
angelrose I understand that you don't want to breed your two Tegus if one of them is a hybrid ( because it is your choice).But I don't understand that when you sad it would be amazing to breed a columbian and a argentine .I think that would be worse than breeding your two args.
Joined: Jan 05, 2008 Posts: 815 Location: pennsylvania
Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 3:56 am Post subject:
meanah wrote:
shyte
this is what I was referring to when I said "ditto". I am no where up to speed on breeding colombians alone. I wish I could tho' _________________ 0.1.0 b/w Colombian tegu
1.2.0 b/w Argentine tegus
1.0.0 Savanah monitor
1.0.0 Brazillian Rainbow boa
1.1.0 Ball pythons
1.0.0 Burmese python
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.Do you have a close up picture ?
.I think that would be worse than breeding your two args.
sorry angelrose.My bad.I thought you were talking about the second post that he posted.