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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:26 am Post subject: prego mice as feeders...
just curious how they are as the mice I've been feeding have all been prego! To bad I'm not able to breed mice. _________________ John Light
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:37 am Post subject:
Pregnant mice that are pretty far along should be higher in calcium then adult mice that are not pregnant. This is because they are producing milk for their soon to be born offspring. The young have not consumed milk so will be less value nutritionally then birthed pinkies who have fed on the mothers milk, but the unborn pinkies are probably not as fatty because of the same reason.
This is pure speculation on my behalf, anyone else have any opinions?
I would say the same thing, Rick I remember you guys telling me about the different kinds of mice you have for sale over there, and that pregnant ones (I forget what they're called when you ask for them frozen) are more expensive to buy, so I would assume that theyre better nutitionally than a normal mouse.
Joined: Dec 28, 2004 Posts: 253 Location: Miami, Fl
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:56 am Post subject:
x-breeders are generally very "plump" and therefore have a higher fat content as well so keep that in mind _________________ Bennett
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my x breeder is sooo fat i still have her cus shes gunna have babys next week so im gunna give here babys to another good mom then guna mouse trap her and freez her till gonzo is big enugh
ps the x breeder is the 1 that ate her babys _________________ 0.2.0 German Shepherds *Khoda* & *Keara*
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Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 998 Location: South Florida
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:24 am Post subject:
LMAO!!!! I haven't heard of anyone using mouse traps. LOL you could get real sick and design a maze with one at the end with a bit of cheese on it!!!
I just figured I'd ask as all of the females I bought from Ben Siegels were prego! My guess is there wasn't one in the big that wasn't and there must of been 50+ mice! _________________ John Light
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Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 613 Location: The Netherlands
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:03 am Post subject:
LOL, never heard of pregnant mice that you can buy to feed your reps...
Dont think we have such a thing here in dutchy country _________________ 1.0.0 T.rufescens
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:12 am Post subject:
X Breeders are not pregnant mice, they are breeder mice who have outlived their use as breeders. They are sold because they no longer breed as often or no longer have larger litter sizes. X Breeders are available in both male & female. Normally after a year of breeding. As beardiedragon pointed out, X Breeders have been fed well and produced many litters and at this point they are normally pretty large and plump.
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:40 am Post subject:
I know exaclty what an x-breeder is. These mice I picked up were all prego. I've bred mice (for very short periods of time) and know the difference. You can't mistake a prego mouse for an X-breeder, IMO anyways. _________________ John Light
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Joined: Nov 06, 2004 Posts: 972269 Location: Central Maine
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:26 pm Post subject:
John, people who can't buy an X Breeder may not know what an X Breeder is. I was pointing it out to be clear to everyone in the conversation.
Rick
John wrote:
I know exaclty what an x-breeder is. These mice I picked up were all prego. I've bred mice (for very short periods of time) and know the difference. You can't mistake a prego mouse for an X-breeder, IMO anyways.
Joined: Dec 28, 2004 Posts: 253 Location: Miami, Fl
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:52 pm Post subject:
let me just interject, the reason I brought up x-breeders is because they are basically the same as your "pregos". an x-breeder (female) has been pregnant all her life and therefore has extra fat stores just as a pregnant mouse would. x-breeders are capable of producing and many times are sold even when pregnant. As was already said, they don't produce as much and are therefore cycled out of breeding and into food. _________________ Bennett
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:53 pm Post subject:
ah...no problem. To be honest I think these were all the x-breeders....although many were still prego!!! _________________ John Light
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Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 613 Location: The Netherlands
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:20 pm Post subject:
Uhm...pregnant all your life?
With humans if a female is pregnant all the time it is a really heavy and unhealthy life and is a major attack on the bones as pregnancy will retrackt calcium from the bones to the baby('s) (its a bit more complicated but comes down to it)...if its done accordingly you can rebuild the calcium again after pregnancy...but not if your pregnant almost emediatly after again.
Wouldnt this whole story thus meen that x-breeders have less calcium in them?? (not looking at wether or not its pregnant when deep frozen) _________________ 1.0.0 T.rufescens
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:00 pm Post subject:
generally xbreeders are used for fattening up animals like those that just laid eggs or are waking up from brumation. It should not be provided as a mainstay. _________________ Bennett
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I remember you guys telling me about the different kinds of mice you have for sale over there, and that pregnant ones (I forget what they're called when you ask for them frozen) are more expensive to buy, so I would assume that theyre better nutitionally than a normal mouse.
