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Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 998 Location: South Florida
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:12 am Post subject: Looks like I may get some little ones this year!!!
Well I was at underground reptiles yesterday talking with Greg, and Ryan came out from the back room and asked me about the whole ordeal with the 2 tegus and so on. We got to talking and I asked him if he had any extra male blues as I had 2 adult girls and nothing to breed them with. He gave me his nextel direct connect # and told me to give him a call on thursday around noon. I'm going to be taking my 2 girls over to his house on breeding loan!!! I'm really excited! I'm going to bring the degi cam along and get some new pics! Anyways I have this info up on my site so I thought I'd let you all know to!!! If the platinum looking female does drop eggs again I plan on keeping a male back to breed back to her. This will prove or disprove the platinums, or my line? Then again Ron won't give out any pictures and I personally have never seen a true platinum so I'm just going by word of mouth.
Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 998 Location: South Florida
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:34 am Post subject:
I'm not planning on having any platinums hatch out. I will be taking anything I think it a platinum including mom to ASF reptiles. Bill has hatched out some platinums before and knows exactly what they look like. I will be keeping back atleast 1.2 platinums if I do hatch any out. I'm not sure at this point if this is a co-dom thing or a recessive trait. Infact to be honest with you no one knows. Ron won't say anything so I guess we'll have to wait and see. As of now platinums (as well as snows) are NOT proven morphs. A plantinum is said to be the axanthic form of the blue tegu. When you breed an axanthic with an albino you get snows. I'm not aware of anyone that has bred a T + albino with an Axanthic in ANY reptile (or animal for that matter). This also makes this whole situation up in the air. If this is a co-dom trait I'll find out right away as I'll have platinums in the clutch. If this is a recessive trait I'll have "het" for platinum which I'll have to prove out. They would sell for a bit more then normals but not much more as they aren't proven. _________________ John Light
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Joined: Jan 06, 2005 Posts: 300 Location: Portsmouth N.H.
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:54 pm Post subject: platniums
Interesting! I can't wait for some pics. How are they visualy different. A more bronze color than white? If they turn out to be a ressive trait. This would be big break thru news in the Tegu community! Can you imagine the breeding possibleity?
Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 998 Location: South Florida
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: platniums
James_James wrote:
Interesting! I can't wait for some pics. How are they visualy different. A more bronze color than white? If they turn out to be a ressive trait. This would be big break thru news in the Tegu community! Can you imagine the breeding possibleity?
From what I've seen, both of my females don't look like the typical Blue. They are a platinum (silver) color. If they did turn out to be platinums I'd have to go out and buy some normal blues (I want all of the morphs! and normals!). I don't know if Ron has bred them back or what not. This information has not been made public. Ron doesn't plan on selling platinums either (This information was disclosed in an e-mail to myself) which confuses me as he sells the other 2 (snows aren't proven yet and albinos) morphs and normals. Why not sell one more morph? Only thing I can think of is there is no cheap way to produce snows which will keep the price up for years to come. The results of platinums breeding albinos are out. My guess is they are both going to prove out. Then again, we are just waiting for someone to actually prove them out! _________________ John Light
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Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 998 Location: South Florida
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: re snows
maddogg wrote:
hey john are all the albinos from ron st pierre het for snow? and how many snows has he produced?
No my albinos are not "het" for snow, and they are NOT from Ron. I have no idea how many "snows" he has produced. As of now snows are NOT proven. They could just be faded albinos. To produce a snow you must breed an albino with an axanthic. Platinums are supposedly axanthic but again no one has bred them back to prove out platinums (to my knowledge, Ron doesn't give out much info). This past season was the first season albino "het" snows were made available. You'll have to wait another year or 2 to see if infact they do produce albinos and snows. I hope to prove out my own platinum line in a few yrs. All blues and blue morphs originated from Ron. These "het" snow albinos people have purchased could end up being nothing more then albinos as again the trait is not proven. Regardless I may end up picking up some snows anyways...although I have plans to wait and see if they prove out. _________________ John Light
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Joined: Jan 06, 2005 Posts: 300 Location: Portsmouth N.H.
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:05 pm Post subject: morphs
Are you saying that albinos are not a proven genetic trait? I'm confused on the axanthic Blue. Is that some kind of rare color morph of a Blue? Why would producing snows, be more costly? Genetics can get confusing!
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