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Joined: Oct 07, 2007 Posts: 113 Location: Sacramento, CA
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:05 pm Post subject: The US government wants your animals GONE.
Welcome to hell people, get your google fingers out and start some research. USF&W is trying to stop any traffic of boas and pythons between states and being imported into the US. This is not the time to site around. Get off your asses and start fighting. If everyone said their words wouldn't make a difference, then no one's would. This is real, this is happening, and this will dessimate people's lives. Snake breeders, importers, hobbyists, rodent breeders. This is not a joke. Get up, stand up!
I've seen links at a couple sites to make letter writing easier, do you have any?
One thing I think that woulod be valuable and has been valuable in the past is to stress how much enforcement of a prohibition like this would cost. Talking to lawmakers about your hobby, and freedom, and so on may or may not bring a reaction, talking about money always does.
Joined: Oct 12, 2007 Posts: 410 Location: San Diego, CA
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:26 pm Post subject:
I agree this is not a good thing, we need to act and act now. Write your local law makers and protest the current desire to attack responsible reptile owners.
ALSO - let's mount a campaign against the idiots who let their animals loose in the wild and are causing unreasonable fear and panic.
This is a fight that must be battled on two fronts.
Joined: Oct 07, 2007 Posts: 113 Location: Sacramento, CA
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 5:11 pm Post subject:
I know some of you are confused as to why this is happening so I will give my take. Florida has issues, non-native snakes are dessimating the delicate ecological balance. Why are there so many non-native species there? Because they can survive in FL. Many reptiles are set loose because owners can't care for them. Why? Because there are no federally funded rescues. The SPCA and animal shelters should be called "Dog & Cat Resale Centers". If someone couldn't take care of their animal, they would drop it off at a shelter just like they would a dog at the pound. If we as herpers could go to a reptile shelter, and pick up an abandoned Burm with a vet check for a minimal adoption fee, this issue would be DEAD. Plain and simple. There are independent reptile rescues, and I thank God for their work, but they need to be federally or state funded so that people can continue this good work. So tell em what you think. This is not some post that you people can just skim past and say oh well. This is your hobby, these are your pets. This is YOUR LIFE. Do not sit there. I am posting a link to the proposal. Leave a comment here and on their page, and send them a letter, that's right a letter, a stamp and paper. Show our government that we will not sit idle and watch our culture diminish. You are herpetoculturists, if you would like to be american beaurocratic sheep, sit around and do nothing. But if you want to continue your bonds and education with our amazing pets, STOP READING THIS AND GET YOUR ASS IN GEAR. It starts with Boas and Pythons, then monitors, then tegus, then iguanas, and soon the leopard gecko your son adores will be nothing but a thing of the past!
Joined: May 15, 2007 Posts: 67 Location: Gilbert, AZ
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject:
I posted this last night in another thread...but ok.
I think they're looking for answers to their inquiry. They say they will discard general complaints. Relatively generalized protesting will get us nowhere. Abide by the recommended structure set on the page, read the act, and respond accordingly, not senselessly.
(1) What regulations does your State have pertaining to the use, transport, or production of Python, Boa and Eunectes genera?
(2) How many species in the Python, Boa and Eunectes genera are currently in production for wholesale or retail sale, and in how many and which States?
(3) How many businesses sell Python, Boa or Eunectes species?
(4) How many businesses breed Python, Boa or Eunectes species?
(5) What are the annual sales for Python, Boa or Eunectes species?
(6) Please provide the number of Python, Boa or Eunectes species, if any, permitted within each State.
(7) What would it cost to eradicate Python, Boa or Eunectes individuals or populations, or similar species, if found?
(8 ) What are the costs of implementing propagation, recovery, and restoration programs for native
species that are affected by Python, Boa or Eunectes species, or similar snake species?
(9) What State-listed species would be impacted by the introduction of Python, Boa or Eunectes species?
(10) What species have been impacted, and how, by Python, Boa or Eunectes species?
These are the species that will be affected:
Python anchietae
Python brongersmai
Python curtis
Python molurus
Python regius
Python reticulatus
Python sebae
Python timoriensis
and related subspecies
Joined: Oct 07, 2007 Posts: 113 Location: Sacramento, CA
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:27 pm Post subject:
Anubis wrote:
I posted this last night in another thread...but ok.
I think they're looking for answers to their inquiry. They say they will discard general complaints. Relatively generalized protesting will get us nowhere. Abide by the recommended structure set on the page, read the act, and respond accordingly, not senselessly.
(1) What regulations does your State have pertaining to the use, transport, or production of Python, Boa and Eunectes genera?
(2) How many species in the Python, Boa and Eunectes genera are currently in production for wholesale or retail sale, and in how many and which States?
(3) How many businesses sell Python, Boa or Eunectes species?
(4) How many businesses breed Python, Boa or Eunectes species?
(5) What are the annual sales for Python, Boa or Eunectes species?
(6) Please provide the number of Python, Boa or Eunectes species, if any, permitted within each State.
(7) What would it cost to eradicate Python, Boa or Eunectes individuals or populations, or similar species, if found?
(8 ) What are the costs of implementing propagation, recovery, and restoration programs for native
species that are affected by Python, Boa or Eunectes species, or similar snake species?
(9) What State-listed species would be impacted by the introduction of Python, Boa or Eunectes species?
(10) What species have been impacted, and how, by Python, Boa or Eunectes species?
These are the species that will be affected:
Python anchietae
Python brongersmai
Python curtis
Python molurus
Python regius
Python reticulatus
Python sebae
Python timoriensis
and related subspecies
Sorry bro, I know people were breezing over your add-on onto the turtle law page, so I took a step to make this more important. This is a very serious issue.
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